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Antiguo 17-Mar-2009, 10:50   #1 (permalink)
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b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx

b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic

b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic

preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.

Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.

I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.

Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.

The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.

if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22

if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a

as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.
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Antiguo 17-Mar-2009, 21:14   #2 (permalink)
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ya viste zapato pa un 88-91 civic no pusieron nada osea q se le puede poner de todo
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ya viste zapato pa un 88-91 civic no pusieron nada osea q se le puede poner de todo


es que sos de lo que no hay
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porque sera q no puedo quedar bien con vos digo yo que mal que mal
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b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx

b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic

b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic

preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.

Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.

I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.

Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.

The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.

if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22

if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a

as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.
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b16 Sir / B18A / ZC / d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a / / b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-serie en un 2001 + cívic / RSX

b16 SiR/EW4/B18A / ZC / d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all K-Series / c todas las series / 92-00 Cívic

b16a2 / b16a3 / b16a Sir II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a / C-series/all todos los K-series / 91 o en mayores cívic

prelude / accord, se adhieren a la serie F y H.

Cualquier cosa que se adapta a cualquier carro con una sierra y todo tipo de dinero ... pero que sea sencillo. Se le ahorrará problemas de cableado y probablemente más barato que tratar de, por ejemplo, meter un b16a SiR1 en un chasis EG vs SiR2 sólo la compra el carro en el primer lugar.

No sabe lo que es OBD? leer sobre ella en nuestra sección de guias.

La forma más fácil de swaps son más de lo único que es lo que los cables correctamente. Para alambre correctamente y con facilidad, lo que necesita para estar en su generación de OBD. Sí, hay arnes de conversión, y es posible, pero no hay arnes para todo, y no es recomendado para hacer uno propio a menos que sepan lo que están haciendo por el temor a causa de tecnicismos, y es probable que si se hizo sepa lo que está haciendo, usted no sería la lectura de este hilo. Por encima de todo esto, existe la cuestión de cable y hydrolic tranny's. El caja de cambios necesita trabajar con su carro. Una vez más, hay kits de conversión, pero la misma norma-una molestia. Comprar el más adecuado para su carro, y todo su conjunto, y el 99% de las veces más barato hacerlo.

si tienes un 92-95 cívic:
fácil: b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
dificil: b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
complicado: b16a Sir1, b18a, H22, F22

estos son los swap desde el mas facil hasta es mas complicado:
más fácil 96-98: b18c/c1/c5/b
mas duro 99-00: b16a2, H22, F22, B16 sir1, b18a

como pueden ver, todo se basa sobre obd-1, obd-2a, obd-2b y obd-0. averiguar lo que tienes, y tratar de atenerse a ella lo mejor que se pueda.
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ya viste zapato pa un 88-91 civic no pusieron nada osea q se le puede poner de todo
b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx

b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic

b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic

preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.

Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.

I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.

Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.

The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.

if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22

if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a

as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.

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Antiguo 26-Mar-2009, 15:13   #9 (permalink)
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b16 SiR/ B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a//b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/all C-series into a 2001+ civic/rsx

b16 SiR/EW4/B18A/ ZC/ d16a6/d16a8/d16a9/b20a/b21a/all k-series/ all c-series/ into 92-00 Civic

b16a2/ b16a3/ b16a SiR II/b20b/b20z/b21a/b20a/b18c1/b18c5/b18b1/h22a/f20/f22a/ all C-series/all K-series/ into 91 or older civic

preludes/accords, stick to the F and H series.

Anything can fit in any car with a hacksaw and all kinds of money... but to keep it simple, try your best to stick to the above. It will save you wiring problems and will most likely be cheaper than trying to, for example, stick a b16a SiR1 into an EG chassis vs. just buying the SiR2 in the first place.

I'm sure i missed a few oddities in the list above... but basically, it all comes down to OBD.

Don't know what obd is? read up on it in our articles section.

The easiest swaps are more than what fits- it's what wires up properly. To wire up properly and easily, you need to stay in your obd generation. Yes, there are conversion harnesses, and it is possible, but there aren't harnesses for everything, and it is NOT recommded to make your own unless you know what you are doing for the fear sake of technicalities, and chances are if you did know what you are doing, you wouldn't be reading this thread. On top of all this, there is the issues of cable and hydrolic tranny's. The tranny needs to work with your car. Again, there are conversion kits- but same rule- its a hassle. Just buy the right one for your car, and its all set, and 99% of the time cheaper to do so.

if you have a 92-95 civic:
easiest swaps- b16 SiR2, 94-95 b18-b/c/c1/c5, b16a3
harder swaps- b16a2, 96-01 b18-b/c/c1/c5
difficult swaps- b16a Sir1, b18a, h22, f22

if you have a 96-98 civic:
easiest swaps- 96-98 b18c/c1/c5/b
hard swaps- 99-00 b16a2, 99-00 h22, f22, b16 sir1, b18a

as you can see, its all about obd 1, obd2a, obd2b and obd0. find out what you got, and try to stick to it as best you can.

los gringos quieren todo facil los pizados
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mano si ve el thread desde un incio hasta el final lo claro es x la dificultad de adaptacion y el wiring q lleva
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mano si ve el thread desde un incio hasta el final lo claro es x la dificultad de adaptacion y el wiring q lleva
ese no era el punto si no que vos pusiste que no decia nada de la serie 88-91 porque le quedaba todo y ademas todo swap cuesta si queres resultados no todo en la vida es plug and play
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