Guayo

Curioseando un poco por internet ví que en algunas cosas creí entender (mi inglés da lástima) que existe cierta compatibilidad entre la serie H y la F, y ví que al menos algunas marcas manejan el mismo código de resortes y retenedores para algunos motores de serie H y de serie B.

¿Alguien tiene información sistematizada respecto a la compatibilidad de la serie H con otras, en cuestiones como resortes y retenedores, sincronizadores de cajas, final drive, etc.?

daml

Al momento si la serie H y F del Prelude si casi que comparten muchas caracteristicas Guayo. en ejemplo podes usar un block f22 que es un long block con una head de un h22 y muchos se tiran por volverlos turbo.

de alli mucha compatibilidad si no hay ya que la serie H y en especial el H22 es muy especial con esas piezas no tiene mucha compatibilidad con la seria B

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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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daml

mira por mi experiencia cuando tube que hacerle medio overhaul al carro y busque piezas en especial los retenedores de los ejes, lo que mas se acercaban eran los del B20 pero por 2mm no eran los mismo, por eso el H22 es muy especial con lo que va con piezas a medida. si queres hacer lo mismo que hice yo y quitar el autotensor podes usar las piezas del H23 sin ningun problema solo necesitas ciertas piezas

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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daml

Bueno pue Guayo ya me puse en puro search aqui llegue estos son piezas internas

Blocks

BLOCK TYPE
H22A = closed deck
H22A1 = closed deck
H22A4 = open deck
H23A = open deck
H23A1 = closed deck
F20A = open deck
F20B = open deck
F22A = open deck
F22B = open deck
F22B1 = open deck
F22B2 = open deck
F23A = open deck

DECK HEIGHT
H22A = 219.5mm/8.643
H22A1 = 219.5mm/8.643
H22A4 = 219.5mm/8.643
H23A = 219.5mm/8.643
H23A1 = 219.5mm/8.643
F20A = 219.5mm/8.643
F20B = 219.5mm/8.643
F22A = 219.5mm/8.643
F22B = 219.5mm/8.643
F22B1 = 219.5mm/8.643
F22B2 = 219.5mm/8.643
F23A = 219.5mm/8.643

BORE
H22A block = 87mm/3.425
H22A1 block = 87mm/3.425
H22A4 Block = 87mm/3.425
H23A block = 87mm/3.425
H23A1 block = 87mm/3.425
F20A block = 85mm/3.346
F20B block = 85mm/3.346
F22A block = 85mm/3.346
F22B block = 85mm/3.346
F22B1 block = 85mm/3.346
F22B2 block = 85mm/3.346
F23A block = 86mm/3.385

Rods

LENGTH
H22A = 143.0mm/5.633
H22A1 = 143.0mm/5.633
H22A4 = 143.0mm/5.633
H23A = 141.5mm/5.572
H23A1 = 141.5mm/5.572
F20A = 145.0mm/5.709
F20B = 145.0mm/5.709
F22A = 141.5mm/5.572
F22B = 141.5mm/5.572
F22B1 = 141.5mm/5.572
F22B2 = 141.5mm/5.572
F23A = 141.0mm/5.551

WIDTH
H22A = 23.75mm/.935
H22A1 = 23.75mm/.935
H22A4 = 23.75mm/.935
H23A = 23.75mm/.935
H23A1 = 23.75mm/.935
F20A = 23.75mm/.935
F20B = 23.75mm/.935
F22A = 23.75mm/.935
F22B = 23.75mm/.935
F22B1 = 23.75mm/.935
F22B2 = 23.75mm/.935
F23A = 19.81mm/.780

MAIN BORE
H22A = 51.00mm/2.008
H22A1 = 51.00mm/2.008
H22A4 = 51.00mm/2.008
H23A = 51.00mm/2.008
H23A1 = 51.00mm/2.008
F20A = ???
F20B = 48.00mm/1.890
F22A = 51.00mm/2.008
F22B = 51.00mm/2.008
F22B1 = 51.00mm/2.008
F22B2 = 51.00mm/2.008
F23A = 48.00mm/1.890

PIN BORE
H22A = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
H22A1 = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
H22A4 = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
H23A = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
H23A1 = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F20A = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F20B = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F22A = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F22B = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F22B1 = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F22B2 = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654
F23A = 21.97-21.98mm/.8649-.8654

Pistons

BORE
H22A = 87mm/3.425
H22A1 = 87mm/3.425
H22A4 = 87mm/3.425
H23A = 87mm/3.425
H23A1 = 87mm/3.425
F20A = 85mm/3.346
F20B = 85mm/3.346
F22A = 85mm/3.346
F22B = 85mm/3.346
F22B1 = 85mm/3.346
F22B2 = 85mm/3.346
F23A = 86mm/3.385

COMPRESSION HEIGHT
H22A = 31.0mm/1.221
H22A1 = 31.0mm/1.221
H22A4 = 31.0mm/1.221
H23A = 30.5mm/1.203
H23A1 = 30.5mm/1.203
F20A = ???
F20B = 31.0mm/1.221
F22A = 30.5mm/1.203
F22B = 30.5mm/1.203
F22B1 = 30.5mm/1.203
F22B2 = 30.5mm/1.203
F23A = 30.0mm/1.181

PISTON VOLUME
H22A = -1.9 cc
H22A Type S = +4.2 cc
H22A1 = -1.8 cc
H22A4 = -1.8 cc
H23A = +4.3 cc
H23A1 = -9.9 cc
F20A = -4.7 cc
F20B = +8.0 cc
F22A = -14.5 cc
F22B = -11.2 cc
F22B1 = -14.5 cc
F22B2 = -14.5 cc
F23A = -18.0 cc

WRIST PIN DIAMETER
H22A = 22.0mm/.866
H22A1 = 22.0mm/.866
H22A4 = 22.0mm/.866
H23A = 22.0mm/.866
H23A1 = 22.0mm/.866
F20A = 22.0mm/.866
F20B = 22.0mm/.866
F22A = 22.0mm/.866
F22B = 22.0mm/.866
F22B1 = 22.0mm/.866
F22B2 = 22.0mm/.866
F23A = 22.0mm/.866

Crankshafts

STROKE
H22A = 90.7mm/3.570
H22A1 = 90.7mm/3.570
H22A4 = 90.7mm/3.570
H23A = 95mm/3.740
H23A1 = 95mm/3.740
F20A = 88mm/3.464
F20B = 88mm/3.464
F22A = 95mm/3.740
F22B = 95mm/3.740
F22B1 = 95mm/3.740
F22B2 = 95mm/3.740
F23A = 97mm/3.818

MAIN JOURNAL DIAMETER
H22A = 50mm
H22A1 = 50mm
H22A4 = 55mm
H22A4 = 50mm (1997 Only)
H23A = 55mm
H23A1 = 50mm
F20A = 50mm
F20B = 55mm
F22A = 50mm
F22B = 50mm
F22B1 = 50mm
F22B2 = 50mm
F23A = 55mm

ROD JOURNAL DIAMETER
H22A = 47.95mm/1.888
H22A1 = 47.95mm/1.888
H22A4 = 47.95mm/1.888
H23A = 47.95mm/1.888
H23A1 = 47.95mm/1.888
F20A = 47.95mm/1.888
F20B = 44.98mm/1.771
F22A = 47.95mm/1.888
F22B = 47.95mm/1.888
F22B1 = 47.95mm/1.888
F22B2 = 47.95mm/1.888
F23A = 44.98mm/1.771

Cylinder Heads

HEAD VOLUME
H22A = 53.8cc
H22A1 = 53.8cc
H22A4 = 53.8cc
H23A = 53.8cc
H23A1 = 50.0cc
F20A = 50cc
F20B = ???
F22A = 50.5cc
F22B = 50.5
F22B1 = 50.6cc
F22B2 = 50.6cc
F23A = ???

INTAKE VALVE DIAMETER
H22A = 35mm/1.38
H22A1 = 35mm/1.38
H22A4 = 35mm/1.38
H23A = 35mm/1.38
H23A1 = 34mm/1.34
F20A = 34mm/1.34
F20B = 34mm/1.34
F22A = 34mm/1.34
F22B = 34mm/1.34
F22B1 = 34mm/1.34
F22B2 = 34mm/1.34
F23A = 34mm/1.34

EXHAUST VALVE DIAMETER
H22A = 30mm/1.18
H22A1 = 30mm/1.18
H22A4 = 30mm/1.18
H23A = 30mm/1.18
H23A1 = 29mm/1.14
F20A = 29mm/1.14
F20B = 29mm/1.14
F22A = 29mm/1.14
F22B = 29mm/1.14
F22B1 = 29mm/1.14
F22B2 = 29mm/1.14
F23A = 29mm/1.14

Head Gaskets

BORE
H22A = 88mm/3.46
H22A1 = 88mm/3.46
H22A4 = 88mm/3.46
H23A = 88mm/3.46
H23A1 = 88mm/3.46
F20A = 85.5mm/3.37
F20B = 85.5mm/3.37
F22A = 85.5mm/3.37
F22B = 85.5mm/3.37
F22B1 = 85.5mm/3.37
F22B2 = 85.5mm/3.37
F23A = 86.5mm/3.41

THICKNESS
H22A = 0.66mm/.026
H22A1 = 0.66mm/.026
H22A4 = 0.66mm/.026
H23A = 0.66mm/.026
H23A1 = 0.66mm/.026
F20A = 0.66mm/.026
F20B = 0.66mm/.026
F22A = 0.66mm/.026
F22B = 0.66mm/.026
F22B1 = 0.66mm/.026
F22B2 = 0.66mm/.026
F23A = 0.66mm/.026

Note:
Gasket thickness measured after crush

Bearings

MAIN BEARING THICKNESS
Blue: 2.013 - 2.010mm / 0.0793 - 0.0791
Black: 2.010 - 2.007mm / 0.0791 - 0.0790
Brown: 2.007 - 2.004mm / 0.0790 - 0.0789
Green: 2.004 - 2.001mm / 0.0789 - 0.0788
Yellow: 2.001 - 1.998mm / 0.0788 - 0.0787
Pink: 1.998 - 1.995mm / 0.0787 - 0.0785
Red: 1.995 - 1.992mm / 0.0785 - 0.0783

ROD BEARING THICKNESS
Blue: 1.510 - 1.507mm / 0.0594 - 0.0593
Black: 1.507 - 1.504mm / 0.0593 - 0.0592
Brown: 1.504 - 1.501mm / 0.0592 - 0.0591
Green: 1.501 - 1.498mm / 0.0591 - 0.0590
Yellow: 1.498 - 1.495mm / 0.0590 - 0.0589
Pink: 1.495 - 1.492mm / 0.0589 - 0.0587
Red: 1.492 - 1.489mm / 0.0587 - 0.0586

MAIN BEARING WIDTH
H22A = 19.9mm/.784
H22A1 = 19.9mm/.784
H22A4 = 19.9mm/.784
H23A = 19.9mm/.784
H23A1 = 19.9mm/.784
F20B = 19.9mm/.784
F22A = 19.9mm/.784
F22B = 19.9mm/.784
F22B1= 19.9mm/.784
F22B2= 19.9mm/.784
F23A = 19.9mm/.784

ROD BEARING WIDTH
H22A = 19.35mm/.762
H22A1 = 19.35mm/.762
H22A = 19.35mm/.762
H23A = 19.35mm/.762
H23A1 = 19.35mm/.762
F20A = 19.35mm/.762
F20B = 19.35mm/.762
F22A = 19.35mm/.762
F22B = 19.35mm/.762
F22B1 = 19.35mm/.762
F22B2 = 19.35mm/.762
F23A = 15.47mm/.609

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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daml

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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Guayo

Muchísimas gracias por la información, la verdad es que sí encontraste un montón de datos de interés, con eso se pueden hacer búsquedas más específicas de intercambiabilidad de internals y transmisiones

daml

De nada si ahorita cabal ando en busqueda de una Tranny M2B4 para el mio

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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Guayo

¿Y en qué cambia con la que ya tienes?

No sé hasta qué punto es más interesante conseguir diferencial LSD que cambio de caja ¿cómo ves?

daml

Mira lo que pasa es que en LSD si son algo caras ejemplo
CUSCO vale 900$ + shipping
la otra opcion seria conseguir una Quafy que es lo mismo y es un poco mas barato.
la cuestion es que en ambos casos tenes que desasrmar tu caja para instalarlo.
no que si ya se consegui la caja con LSD te ahorras ese proceso que ya solo seria solo de drenar ese aceite que tiene y poner un nuevo aceite y ponerla sin hacer tanta cosa. y sin preocuparte que no te haga falta poner bien una pieza. mas que todo es el ahorro del $$$$$

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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daml

aparte que ya en si es cara la tranny M2B4 la que encontre andaba en 850$ o 900$ este precio fue de una venta de motores JDM que tambien venden Transmisiones y aparte que son muy pocas las que encontras en el mercado entonces como que volves un poco mas exclusivo tu carro usando un Tranny que es de muy poco conocimiento.

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99 BB6 SiR S-spec
96 BB1 wreck
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What is the point of a race? if your answer: is to see that i'm better, i'll answer you back that just proves that you're faster that's all. If i'm gonna race you, will be for something worth racing for.
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